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Re: Non-linear full-2d writing (again)

From:Paul Bennett <paul-bennett@...>
Date:Sunday, January 29, 2006, 21:10
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 15:55:56 -0500, Jefferson Wilson
<jeffwilson63@...> wrote:

>> Again, you're thinking in complicated and obfuscated mathematical >> jargon. > > No I'm thinking about what is needed to convey information.
No, you're not. I can convey information in ways that are utterly outside your "needed" theory, just by drawing word symbols in an arrangement that I invent as I see fit.
> If you have another definition, feel free to define it.
Yes: a connection is some kind graphical mark that is used indicate some kind of semantic or syntactic link between two symbols in a written language, which connection may be more or less defined by the rules of that specific writing system, and may more or less be constrained by the type of connection in writing systems that allow and define more than one type of connection. It is, in short, a graphical object, not a mathematical construct. It's a definition which does not require a degree in higher mathematics to understand (nor indeed much of a familiarity with linguistic theory), and I would have thought it was a definition which is immediately and instinctively apparent to any nonspecialised reader.
>> Most people do not conlang based on the axioms of information theory. >> I don't see why we should be con-scripting based on the axioms of map >> theory. > > We AREN'T con-scripting. We're THEORIZING ABOUT conscripting. If you > can't see how map theory applies to conscripting theory I pity you.
We are indeed theorizing. I feel that what you're doing is more akin to theorizing about theorizing about conscripting. A second-order or meta theorizing, I'd argue, and in terms of specialized mathematical theory rather than terms of linguistics. I don't *care* what Spazinsky's Reverse Superinflation Theory says about the number of n-thoganal polyspaces containable within a left handed screwdriver, if I can quickly and trivially draw a doodle that operates outside that theory. Paul


David G. Durand <dgd@...>