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Re: Non-linear full-2d writing (again)

From:Sai Emrys <sai@...>
Date:Tuesday, January 24, 2006, 21:40
Ray -

>> IIRC, it took a while for me to convince you of that, or of what the >> hell I was trying to get at in the first place. :-P >Yes, it did. But when I understood the implication of _fully_, I was >convinced.
How would *you* explain it to someone else? (E.g. 'pre-conversion' you :-P) I ran into a similar problem a few days ago, when talking to a linguistics prof about this - she got stuck on the idea that it was 'non-temporal', and kept overstating my position as saying that I was trying to have non-temporal *processing* (which is silly, aside from the important exclusion of 'glance' level processing, which is fast enough that it might as well be). I think I left that conversation with her still thoroughly convinced that what I was talking about was completely impossible by everything she knew from linguistics and cogpsych - and me with the impression that she didn't understand what I was trying to describe. But then, Lakoff said the same thing when he gave me a F on my paper about it. It'll probably be one of those nice things to frame and put on my wall, once (if? nah, 'once') I succeed in making such a system. :-P Yahya -
> Yet just yesterday I may have unintentionally > implied that Sai's quest for 2D writing systems > was poorly motivated ...
*shrug* Motivation is hard to judge. I make no claims that my ideas need be interesting to others.
> Humble apologies! I'm sure your reasons for > wanting a 2D writing system are much better than > mere technical capability. And your latest posts on > this topic are more concerned than ever with the > idea of writing expressing a gestalt, with higher- > level connections. Sometimes I thinnk the ideal > poem would be like that - a simple, integrated whole. > > Indeed, I hadn't yet joined this list in May, so I > had better follow Ray's advice and look up the > original thread.
No offense taken. Please do read those, and let us know what you think about the idea once you have. I (and others here most likely) could use some more inspiration / ideas about how this could be done. I'm currently a bit stuck on it - pending, as you say, the gestalt. It's like poetry-writing for me; I can't really force myself to do it until I have a cogent concept of what the idea / image / scene / etc. is. And in this case, while I have a few ideas of how I want it to work, and various angles at it, I don't have a good feeling of the gestalt. I figure that once I do, the rest will come pretty quickly though. - Sai


R A Brown <ray@...>