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Re: Non-linear full-2d writing (again)

From:Nokta Kanto <red5_2@...>
Date:Monday, January 23, 2006, 5:27
I've picked up Harpelan again, a little bit, and I'm slowly refurbishing
the morphology and lexicon. (I'm still nomail.)

> * how to have sememes that overlap or intertwine?
Sort of a case study: I haven't done much of this in Harpelan, with the exception of some outside/inside pairings. In my case, I've found the results aesthetically unpleasing. The exception is Harpelan verbs, which comprise a small and closed set (currently numbering seven) that take affixes to mark modality, intent, and auxiliary verbs. All the verbs have approximately a square or pentagonal shape and have a large blank space in the middle -- this gives them reference points so that sememes can be lined up consistently; even so, there's quite a few not-quite-fits that become special cases. In all, it's hard to make characters that are visually distinct on their own, yet have a common set of reference points to align with other characters. It's also a challenge to make it so that the individual sememes are still recognizable after overlapping. Currently, I don't see individual sememes in verbs. Instead, I see first the density of features, which tells me how many sememes are there, and then specific distinguishing features such as "equals sign" double lines that are characteristic of particular sememes.
> * how to have the 'web' interconnected at higher-order levels (e.g. > paragraph plus)?
That's what names are for =) There's a graphical programming language called "Labview" where, instead of typing programs, you draw them by laying down boxes (which represent function calls or structured control flow), and connecting the outputs of boxes to the inputs of other boxes. Labview has this wire clutter problem: for modest to large size programs, one ends up spending more and more time adjusting the wires that connect different boxes together so that the program is readable. I think this is kind of an intrinsic problem with graphical writing; if you want to connect related things together, you're going to get wire clutter as the text gets larger. The solution is to name things that are not local to a small area. I'd like to hear any solutions others come up with. --Noktakanto

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