Re: Non-linear full-2d writing (again)

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, R A Brown wrote:

[snip]
> > How would *you* explain it to someone else? (E.g. 'pre-conversion' you
:-P)
>
> Thanks - that's a tall order  :P
>
> Let's see. First it might help to make it clear what it isn't.
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> To be _fully_ 2D it must be at least a network, and something *that
> cannot be recomposed in linear form _without loss of meaning_*.
>
> Secondly, there must be positive reason for using two dimensions. It
> should not be just linear stuff, recomposed, with a few extra 'fancy
bits'.
>
> What, I think, we are attempting is to represent thought without having
> to process the thoughts through linear language. It is an attempt to
> represent thought(s) as, say, a 'thought-web'.
Good!  This is roughly where I have determined that Sai was coming from ...


[snip]
> >>.......... And your latest posts on
> >>this topic are more concerned than ever with the
> >>idea of writing expressing a gestalt, with higher-
> >>level connections.
>
> Gestalt - yep, that's the sort of idea, I think.
>
> >> Sometimes I thinnk the ideal
> >>poem would be like that - a simple, integrated whole.
>
> Yep - that's the sort of thing!
>
> >>Indeed, I hadn't yet joined this list in May, so I
> >>had better follow Ray's advice and look up the
> >>original thread.
> >
> > No offense taken. Please do read those, and let us know what you think
> > about the idea once you have.
>
> Quite a bit of reading - but, yes, I too would be interested in what you
> think.
Well, I will try to make some time to do so, but can make no
promises, as my plate is overflowing right now.  If I can free
up some time, I would really rather focus on how to represent
a network of concepts usefully.  Would this be missing the
point altogether?


> > I (and others here most likely) could
> > use some more inspiration / ideas about how this could be done.
>
> Count me in as one of those others.
>
> > I'm currently a bit stuck on it - pending, as you say, the gestalt.
> > It's like poetry-writing for me; I can't really force myself to do it
> > is. And in this case, while I have a few ideas of how I want it to
> > work, and various angles at it, I don't have a good feeling of the
> > gestalt.
> >
> > I figure that once I do, the rest will come pretty quickly though.
>
> 'Tis a nice thought - let's hope it's true  :)
 Hope
 Only
 Poets
 Elucidate

Regards,
Yahya

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