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Re: Non-linear full-2d writing (again)

From:Yahya Abdal-Aziz <yahya@...>
Date:Thursday, January 26, 2006, 14:10
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006, R A Brown wrote:

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> > How would *you* explain it to someone else? (E.g. 'pre-conversion' you
:-P)
> > Thanks - that's a tall order :P > > Let's see. First it might help to make it clear what it isn't.
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> To be _fully_ 2D it must be at least a network, and something *that > cannot be recomposed in linear form _without loss of meaning_*. > > Secondly, there must be positive reason for using two dimensions. It > should not be just linear stuff, recomposed, with a few extra 'fancy
bits'.
> > What, I think, we are attempting is to represent thought without having > to process the thoughts through linear language. It is an attempt to > represent thought(s) as, say, a 'thought-web'.
Good! This is roughly where I have determined that Sai was coming from ... [snip]
> >>.......... And your latest posts on > >>this topic are more concerned than ever with the > >>idea of writing expressing a gestalt, with higher- > >>level connections. > > Gestalt - yep, that's the sort of idea, I think. > > >> Sometimes I thinnk the ideal > >>poem would be like that - a simple, integrated whole. > > Yep - that's the sort of thing! > > >>Indeed, I hadn't yet joined this list in May, so I > >>had better follow Ray's advice and look up the > >>original thread. > > > > No offense taken. Please do read those, and let us know what you think > > about the idea once you have. > > Quite a bit of reading - but, yes, I too would be interested in what you > think.
Well, I will try to make some time to do so, but can make no promises, as my plate is overflowing right now. If I can free up some time, I would really rather focus on how to represent a network of concepts usefully. Would this be missing the point altogether?
> > I (and others here most likely) could > > use some more inspiration / ideas about how this could be done. > > Count me in as one of those others. > > > I'm currently a bit stuck on it - pending, as you say, the gestalt. > > It's like poetry-writing for me; I can't really force myself to do it > > is. And in this case, while I have a few ideas of how I want it to > > work, and various angles at it, I don't have a good feeling of the > > gestalt. > > > > I figure that once I do, the rest will come pretty quickly though. > > 'Tis a nice thought - let's hope it's true :)
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