Re: Help Weird Up My Orthography
|From:||Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>|
|Date:||Monday, August 22, 2005, 11:11|
Shreyas Sampat <ssampat@...> writes:
> It's been a long time since I conlanged seriously, but with the
> revival of the fiction anthology I'm using Seinundjé for (y'know,
> Tolkien-style, to add setting colour), I've been wanting to, like,
> make it better. ...
Hi Shreyas, welcome back! :-)
> And now, I'm getting humg up on my Latin orthography,
> because, well, it's not very exciting. Sein' doesn't have an
> especially exotic phonology, which makes it pretty easy to come up
> with an uncomplicated spelling for it...the problem lies in walking
> the line between something too easy and something that even I can't
:-) My current project S11 also uses Latin orthography -- it might
even be kept as it is since I especially like the assignment of
graphemes to vowels:
<a e i o u ä ë ï ö ü>
/A e i o u & 7 M 2 y/
Consonants are much uglier and require Unicode. I'm also currently
not very productive wrt. to neographies.
> The phoneme inventory is this:
> p b t d t` d` k g
> f v T D s z S Z s` z` h G
> m n_0 n n` N
> r l`
> w y
s, S, s` are funny. :-)
And m, n_0, n, n`, N.
<j> for retroflex seems weird to me, but maybe I just need to
think French [Z] instead of German [j], then its clearer.
> Finally, some affixes cause metathesis, like the nominaliser -n;
> these are marked with an apostrophe between the parts that exchanged
> position (kúdh-n > kún'dh).
Metathesis is cool! :-)
The sandhi of S11 (which are not finished yet) use a lot of
metathesis, too, to enforce the languages sonority constraints.
> This generates some very pretty texts, but it just isn't that
> interesting to me... how can I, um, weird it up?
Hmm. How about introducing complex, irregular sandhi? And dont
insert helping apostrophes or dashes. :-)
> Nédhhiul, methne kirikkíssne lésesen: O mists, that you would clear!
> Hujhul-Kún'dh-mí-Harástechhó: Tangled Root of Heroism
Looks nice and I think it sounds good, if I pronounce it correctly
(although I'm bad at gemination together with vowel length, so
/kirik:i:s:ne/ is a bit difficult). How does stress work?
Looks nice to me. I'm curious about the grammar.