Theiling Online    Sitemap    Conlang Mailing List HQ   

dl (was: RE: Unilang: the Phonotactics)

From:And Rosta <a.rosta@...>
Date:Friday, April 20, 2001, 0:58
> In fact /dl/ is not uncommon in French, cf. /dlo/ "water" (de l'eau). > Ancient Greek certainly had initial /tl/, /dl/ and /thl/ and I'm pretty > sure these combos occur initially in several modern languages. But I do > agree they are far less common than combos of non-dental & non-alveolar > plosives + /l/. In fact, they seem often to become velar+/l/, cf. Vulgar > Latin /vEklu/ <-- /wetlu-/ <-- uetulu(m). In "sub-standard" English one > may hear 'bottle' promounced /bQkl=/ (tho /bQ?l=/ is now more common). > > But the reverse change occasionly happens. In certain Yorshire dialects, > apparently, /gl/ --> /dl/ so that e.g. _gloom_ was pronounced [dlu:m] (I > suspect universal education & mass media has now made such pronunciations > obsolete :=(
No -- [dlu:m] is still current in the North. In some sense, though, gloom > dloom is not the reverse of bottle > bockle, because the latter form a minimal pair whereas the former do not. ObConlang: in Livagian, /dl/ is realized as [dJ] (J = tap) and /gl/ as [gl] and so on for other coronals and dorsals. /bl/ is [bJ] or [bl]. /dr/ and /gr/ are [dR] and [gR] (R = English approximant R). /br/ is [bR] or [bB] (B = trill). --And.


Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>