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Re: Phonology - request for comments

From:Eric Christopherson <raccoon@...>
Date:Tuesday, August 31, 1999, 18:43
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Subject: Re: Phonology - request for comments


> Eric Christopherson <raccoon@...> wrote:
> > 1) I don't want to use BOTH dental and alveolar stops, and BOTH velar
and
> > uvular sounds, but I do want a variety of sounds so that they can
develop in
> > different ways in the descendent languages. > > The dental/alveolar distinction is not very pronounced, *unless* there's > different allophonic behaviour maybe. For example, let dentals alone while > alveolar become postalveolar before front vowels.
> The same for velar/uvular (for example /ki/ = [ci] and /qi/ = [ki]). > If you want more variety, you could try a labiovelar series (/k_w/, > /g_w/, etc.) or really coarticulated sounds (kp, gb, Nm ties), or > prenasalized stops (mb, nd, Ng, N\G\).
You read my mind on this one. That's exactly the distinction I had planned to make for the uvulars and velars, with the exception that uvulars before BACK vowels become glottals (of course there is no voiced glottal stop, so /G\/ would have to be dealt with specially).
> > Does it even make sense > > for lateral fricatives to become interdental? Also, is there such a
thing as
> > an aspirated glottal stop? I think it's possible, but I'm not sure. > > Yes and yes IMHO. Consider Japanese allophones of /h/, [P] and [C]. > See how Spanish changed /S/ into /x/! As for the asp. glottal stop, > I think it's perfectly possible, though it may not be very distinct > from the non-aspirated one if you emphasize it at the beginning of > words. I myself cannot say sentence-initial /a/ without actually > pronouncing [?a], so to distinguish /a/ and /?a/ I would pronounce > /?a/ = [?_ha].
Ok. Now that I think about it, one of the sibilants in modern Semitic languages is thought to have derived from a lateral fricative. But now I'm reconsidering using plain old /T/ and /D/ again. I'm sure it'll work itself out in the end.