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Re: Syntactic Differentiation of Adverbial vs. Adjectival Adpositions

From:R A Brown <ray@...>
Date:Friday, September 5, 2008, 16:44
Logan Kearsley wrote:
> Consider the sentence "I ate the fruit on the table." > In English, this is structurally ambiguous, because the prepositional > phrase can apply to the verb or a noun- did I eat fruit which was on > the table, or did I eat the fruit while I was on the table? > I think someone mentioned a conlang that has a semantic distinction > between adverbial and adjectival prepositions;
Quite likely, tho I can't think of one immediately. But Classical Latin certainly makes a distinction. In CL prepositional phrases may be used only adverbially. Therefore _poma in mensa edi_ can mean only that I got onto the table and ate the fruit* there (the fruit may have already been on the table waiting for me to climb beside it and eat it, or I may have brought along to eat there). *I assume 'fruit' is being used as a mass noun in this English sentence, therefore I've used the neuter plural _poma_. If I want to say I eat the fruit which was already on the table waiting for me, then I must say: _poma quae in mensa erant edi.
> But what about using different syntax to > distinguish the two cases? Say, prepositions as noun-modifiers, and > postpositions as verb-modifiers (or vice-versa)? > > Then the case where the fruit was on the table before I ate it would > be "I ate the fruit on the table", whereas the case where I ate the > fruit while I was on the table would be "I ate the fruit the table on" > / "I the table on ate the fruit".
I see; adpositional phrases use a preposition if they function adverbially but a postposition if they function adjectivally. Interesting idea - somehow I doubt that any natlang works like that - but you newer know with ANADEW ;) -- Ray ================================== http://www.carolandray.plus.com ================================== Frustra fit per plura quod potest fieri per pauciora. [William of Ockham]

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Logan Kearsley <chronosurfer@...>