Plato's cave in Draseliq, Part 2
From: | FFlores <fflores@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, April 7, 1999, 0:45 |
Well, this was tougher than the first part. Lots of
embedded clauses here... Terrible confusion in my head... :)
My language cortex is now set to VSO mode and it's not nice.
"=C1useft ei=E9m anth", b=FCk Soimol, "taus =E1useft s=EDqumonth."
strange image this said Grey and strange prisoners
"Rrap siarhadh", anth b=F9rt.
like we.GRP this said.I
_anth_ "this" is often used as a resumptive, to
remember the hearer of a previous thing. In English
we would say "I said at this" =3D "reacting to this".
"Per nailek s=EDqumonth m=FCl getin h=E8gn,
for see.3p prisoners only back wall.ACC
thurfarnailek eddhras=FCr renthn,
POS.NEG.see.3p walkway.LOC men.ACC
As you see, the locative can modify a NP:
_eddhras=FCr renthn_ "the men in the walkway".
POS means possibilitive.
muinsil fret temb=FC'rthn su rrap b=FCrth i s=EDqumonhadh.
equally not RFX.they.ACC or like they * prisoners.GRP
_rrap b=FCrth i s=EDqumonhadh_ "like them prisoners" =3D
=3D "the prisoners like them, their fellow prisoners".
Anth tadh, gi mer=FCr n=FCp,
this however because-of mouth.LOC fire // mouth =3D entrance
g=E8n thunailek miatht sauranthn
indeed POS.see.3p tangled shadows.ACC
en eddhras=FCr renth mi en kof rulek=20
by walkway.LOC men and by things carry.3p
b=FCntth l=E1ktimpal b=FCtth.=20
them.REL caused they.REL
"They *can* see the tangled shadows caused by
the men and by the things that they carry."
L=FCthek fanth sauranth dh=E9nersel taikthes
make.3p these shadows moving bodies.GEN
rin kofes timegtheng.
with things.GEN snakes.COMP.ACC // with =3D and
Idiom here: _timegtheng_, from _tim=E9g_ "snake".
The comparative case makes a noun into a noun or
an adjective/adverb that means "like..." or=20
"similar to...", but it's almost obsolete. This
word is nearly a fossil meaning "a tangle, something
like a lot of snakes put together".
Anth =E4t, be vel s=EDqumonth matsnitek =E4d =E4nd,
this so if among prisoners ABL.talk.3p one-another
takes=EDkener kek=E1laiek l=FC'thaiek=20
Yes.QRY.suppose.2s QRY.think.3pFUT make.3pFUT
The QueRY marker is _ke-_, used to make yes-no questions.
Here _ta-_ is added to show "yes" is the expected answer.
There's a serial verb construction here again:
"they'll think (and) they'll make" =3D=20
=3D "they'll invent with their minds"
thundnien afli=E4ntel =E1useftel sauranth i dheadhanthn
name.OBJ different strange shadows * kinds.ACC
nailek b=FCntth i thunthn,
see.3p them.REL * names.ACC
This phrase means "(invent >) [to name the different kinds
of strange shadows that they see] > names". The whole
"objective" clause must come before the noun, "names".
kef=E9ndavaiek k=F3nisek kof th=FAndundeik b=FCntth?"
QRY.believe.3pFUT real.3p things name.DUP.3p them.REL
DUP =3D reduplication, with a dynamic meaning.
Coming soon: the third part.
--Pablo Flores
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