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Re: Mutable R's

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Tuesday, March 25, 2003, 10:54
En réponse à Garth Wallace <gwalla@...>:

> Rachel Klippenstein wrote: > > > > My R in Ikanirae Seru is a bit undecided too, wavering > > mostly between and approximant [r\] and a tap [4], but > > that can be explained that it's a language with > > phonology drawing on Japanese, which has [4], > > I'm pretty sure Japanese has [l\], not [4].
?! That's the first time I hear that one. To me, Japanese and Spanish have exactly the same rhotic, and it's definitely [4]. It doesn't sound like [l\] at all. Actually, it has nothing lateral in it! At least that's what I was
> taught ("try to pronounce a d, r, and l all at once") and what I hear. >
Well, American intervocalic 'd' is commonly pronounced [4], so that's why you were taught it this way. And the usual comment that the Japanese 'r' is between 'r' and 'l' is only due to the fact that Japanese people pronounce [4] in borrowed words with a 'l'. But I am 100% sure that the Japanese 'r' is a simple [4]. And I have 200 episodes of Sailor Moon in original version at home to comfort me in my opinion ;))) . Christophe. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr It takes a straight mind to create a twisted conlang.

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