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Re: The English School System

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Wednesday, April 23, 2003, 15:43
En réponse à Chris Bates :

>Oh. :( I was looking forward to an interesting explanation and instead I >get boring reality lol.
LOL. It's France. What d'you expect? ;)))
> I can't remember where I read that about French >and English courses being different now... in case you don't know, here >Maths is compulsory to sixteen only, just like every other subject. If >you decide not to go get a job at sixteen, you go to college (I know, >its confusing when you talk to americans or some english people, but >college more often means 16 - 18 education here than it does college in >the sense of oxford or cambridge colleges). Some schools have a college >attached which we call a sixth form.
It's confusing for French people too, because Junior High is called "collège" in French. Senior High is called "lycée" (masculine word despite the ending).
>I think something you did say highlighted a key difference between >French and English teaching, I'm not sure which is better.
Me neither. I guess at the end people are about the same level and as used up in both cases :((( .
> There's a lot >og splitting people up depending upon their ability (or their ability as >much as any test can measure ability) in the core subjects like English, >Maths, Science and Foreign Languages in secondary school (11 - 16). I'm >not sure at all which approach is better at all... you get a GCSE at 16 >at the end of it if you pass however you were streamed, but what level >you were classed as affects the maximum grade you can get. The >disadvantage of course is that it imposes a limit on the maximum grade >people can get if they're not the most able at the subject, and you can >get zero on a paper and fail when you might have taken an easier paper >which would not have let you get above a C say but you could have at >least passed. But on the other side if you stream people and they don't >improve in the subject, then you can concentrate on the more important >or managable things so at least they go away having learnt something >rather than spending the whole year doodling in their exercise books.
I see. In France, the only splitting that happens is that students that don't get enough as average have to do the year all over again. The whole point is that *all* the different courses are considered important and the student should be good at *all* of them. Stupid thought I know, but I'm not responsible for the French educations system :((( .
>BTW, you don't know anything about north sea cod do you?
Not at all! ;)))
> I think I >mentioned before I'm in the first year of a maths degree, and my >sadistic Modelling and Dynamics (Mechanics by another name lol) lecturer >has set modelling cod populations as the group project for my group. >*sigh* I've come up with a model but there's something wrong because I >just have a feeling looking at the data that the poor cod would be >driven to extinction if my fishing quotas were used (we were supposed to >come up with patterns and amount of fishing to stop the cod going >extinct). But never mind.. there are other fish in the sea....
LOL. Never had such kinds of projects to do ;))) . But it's true that we never used a computer at school (in Primary School yes, but this was an experiment, one of the first schools in France to have a few computers to teach basic things to children. And the computers were a network of Thomson MO-5 connected to a 1512 ;))) ), so we couldn't have done such a thing anyway. You have to think that even today, most scientific exams forbid the use of calculators :) . Christophe Grandsire. http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr You need a straight mind to invent a twisted conlang.