Re: CHAT: Phonemic status of English interdentals

Andreas Johansson wrote:

> Tristan wrote:
>
>> You could be right. I use [8:] to denote the vowel in 'bird'. The first
>> element of the vowel is almost a rounded backish [@] and so neither
>> really closer to [8] nor [3\], so I use [8] for simplicity. I think. I
>> might actually be horribly wrong. Can argue simplicity anyway, because I
>> wasn't being especially narrow in my transcription? (I used [u] to
>> indicate a vowel closer to [}], after all.)
>
>
> I thought [8] was mid-central rounded, ie the rounded partner to schwa?
> Denoted in IPA as an "o" with a horizontal bar in (looks like a small
> caps
> Theta, more or less).
No, it's the central version of [2] or [o] or the rounded version of
[@\]. Close-mid central rounded.

Tristan.