Re: CHAT: Phonemic status of English interdentals

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> You may certainly be right. I however, never hear /f/ and /v/ for /T/ and
> /D/, except in references to the speech of some Black people or
> African-Americans (the second term is used more often, but the first seems
> to me more accurate for what people MEAN when they say the second, as they
> are not usually including Egyptian-American Arabs and South
> African-American Whites, for example [not meaning to start a whole
> discussion or flamefest on race or anything]). Of course, /f/ and /v/ may
> spread in the future, but for now, the interdentals seem pretty secure
> here.
>
>
You don't live in England, do you?

You hear things like 'something' being pronounced /s@mfINk/