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Re: THEORY: unergative

From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Thursday, February 26, 2004, 2:58
Jörg Rhiemeier wrote:

> Hallo! > > On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 13:44:38 -0600, > Herman Miller <hmiller@...> wrote: >> But in Dyirbal for instance, which is one of the >>standard examples of an ergative language, first and second person >>pronouns are nominative/accusative. In my own language Kazvarad, which >>was originally a human language (and is currently in an undefined state, >>depending on whether there turn out to be humans in the Azirian >>universe), the pronoun prefixes on verbs are nominative/accusative, >>while nouns have ergative/absolutive morphology. > > Which, AFAIK, violates a universal that states that if there is > a split on the referential hierarchy, it's the other way round, > as in Dyirbal.
The difference between Dyirbal and Kazvarad is in the third person pronouns; Dyirbal only uses nominative/accusative for the first and second person pronouns, while Kazvarad also uses them for the third person pronouns. Thomas E. Payne gives a convenient hierarchy chart for this: 1 > 2 > 3 > 1 > 2 > 3 > proper names > humans > non-human > inanimates agreement > pronouns animates definite > indefinite Things farther to the left on this diagram are more likely to be nominative/accusative, while things farther to the right are more likely to be ergative/absolutive. Kazvarad just happens to fit; I designed it long before I'd heard of this universal.