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Re: Ellipsis (was: Re: Italian Particles)

From:Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Monday, April 24, 2000, 18:38
At 9:24 am -0400 24/4/00, Vasiliy Chernov wrote:
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> >I suspect that enabling ellipsis is not so mandatory. > >For example, in English, you can't say simply 'Reads' in reply to a >question like 'What does he do?'
Oh, but you can!
>(Or at least I was taught you can't; L1 speakers may correct me).
You're welcome :)
>You must say 'He reads' - a very strange >thing for the speakers of more synthetic langs.
A pedantic 'rule' - haven't observed it for many years. Don't recall ever being misunderstood.
>In many cases you can't omit the object. This may be partly conditioned >by the common transitive/intransitive homonymy ('Burn!' wouldn't mean >the same as 'Burn it!'), but there must be other factors involved (can >you ever say in English simply 'Give!' or 'Take!', I wonder? And why, >if not?).
Can, if the context is clear. And whenever I bought a coffee on my last trip to the US, I was always given the command 'Enjoy!' as it was handed to me. This custom is now spreading this side of the pond also.
>Similarly, I think SOV (OSV, VSO, VOS) languages may prohibit certain >types of elliptic structures (e. g. requiring a pronominal filler in >some cases). > >I see a lot of possibilities here (which mostly seem incompatible >within one lang): 'Don't omit the subject', 'Don't drop the object',
I think this sort of ellipsis occurs more readily in SVO languages where the positioning of the verb makes it clearer whether the subject or the object is "understood". Ray. ========================================= A mind which thinks at its own expense will always interfere with language. [J.G. Hamann 1760] =========================================