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Re: yet another new lang sketch (sorry)

From:J. Barefoot <ataiyu@...>
Date:Sunday, October 31, 1999, 17:44
>From: Daniel Andreasson <noldo@...> >Reply-To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...> >To: Multiple recipients of list CONLANG <CONLANG@...> >Subject: Re: yet another new lang sketch (sorry) >Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:36:03 +0100 > >Jennifer Barefoot wrote: > > > Phonology > >Nice and simple. Looks like a sister language to Asiteya. >
> > Any suggestions on this? I think pitch-accent is really nifty but I >don't > > have any experience with it. > >Well, being a native speaker of a language that has pitch-accent >(i.e. Swedish), I must say it sure is nifty. But your system is >a bit hard to follow. Could you provide us with examples? > >Let's see if I understand it correctly: > >Final vowels of >/=3 syllable words have low accent. >Second vowel have high accent. > >___/\______ > \ >kunilasapa'a > >Shouldn't it rather be with a high pitch at the end?:
Why? I meant the first diagram, but the third is reasonable too. perhaps it's the dialect of another island.
> >Or do you mean: > _______ >___/ \ >kunilasapa'a > > >What about words with exactly three syllables, like 'amasi'? >Which rule apply to them? the '>3-rule' or the '<3-rule'? >Or neither? Is it:
the greater than/equal to rule:
>____ > \ >amasi > > >Third rule, 'amat' should be: > >__/ >amat > >right?
yes.
>
>Regarding the Native American touch. Not knowing anything >about them, aren't they tone languages rather than pitch >accent languages? > >Verbs: > > > aspect infixes - fall after the initial consonant of the verb > > > > telic -ix- > >What's 'telic'?
Carried out completely.
> >Nouns: > >I like that you have gender, and the 'softening' of the >final consonant in the plural is cool. > > > One of the few sentences in this language thus far: > > ani al puyan musinaan ni'i al tisuuyaa > > I.rel the woman-acc see.durative-past at the doorway-loc > > I used to see the woman in the doorway. > >What about the syntax? >The basic word order seems to be SOV, but does that >change to show the tense, like Asiteya does?
Yes, it's SOV. No switching to show tense, sorry.
> >Could you clarify the case system? Is it a mixed >ergative/accusative system? How come you use the >relative case in your example sentence instead of >the nominative? Does it have something to do with >the verb 'to see', with the 'subject' being an >experiencer, or what?
Mixed ergative/accustive, and the ergative form happens to be the same as the genitive form. The subject of this sentence is in the relative case because it has a direct object. Something like "I see" (an intransitive) would just be "aminaani" with a personal prefix.
> > > Jennifer Barefoot > >Daniel Andreasson >
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