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Re: Norwegian languages

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Saturday, August 31, 2002, 1:14
Quoting Arthaey Angosii <arthaey@...>:

> John Cowan emaelivpahr: > >just as there is no standard spoken American. > >(There's the way TV announcers talk, but people don't learn > >that style unless they want to go into some related profession.) > > There aren't different dialects (that I'm aware of, besides the supposed > Appalachian English) in the US, just different accents. A Southerner speaks > the same American English as a Californian, only with slightly different > (but entirely understandable) pronunciation. From the original post about > Norweigan languages, it sounded like two distinct languages were being > discussed, not two accents.
You have obviously not listened to any of these "accents". :) In all seriousness, America *does* have significant dialect variation; it simply does not have as much as, say, Germany or China. I live in an area in which many African-Americans live, and a large number of them speak the so-called African- American Vernacular English. I remember vividly eating at a local restaurant once, and sitting at a table next to a young couple with a child. I was separated from them by no more than five feet, and yet for the life of me I couldn't understand most of their conversation. They were clearly speaking some dialect of English the whole time I listened, and speaking loud enough that I should have understood them, but I could understand only about every other word. I think they were also diglossic, since when the waitress approached them to take their order, they all of sudden became entirely intelligible. What made this all the more curious is that my own native dialect shares a number of features with AAVE (use of y'all, /ai/ --> /a:/ shift, optional dropping of all subject NPsm, etc.). Your opinion of America "having no dialects" is true only for the Western half or so, and that only in the sense that the dialects are sociolinguistically, not geographically, conditioned. When you travel along the East Coast, there are *lots* of regionalisms present. One vivid one that comes to mind, present in parts of the Carolinas, is the idiom "it come up a cloud", meaning "there's going to be a thunderstorm". This would not at all be intelligible to me if it weren't for the fact that my friend who uses it in his native dialect is bidialectal. ========================================================================= Thomas Wier Dept. of Linguistics "Nihil magis praestandum est quam ne pecorum ritu University of Chicago sequamur antecedentium gregem, pergentes non qua 1010 E. 59th Street eundum est, sed qua itur." -- Seneca Chicago, IL 60637

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