Re: Question about word-initial velar nasal
From: | Tim May <butsuri@...> |
Date: | Thursday, November 4, 2004, 15:27 |
(Sorry, this first went direct to Philip - GMail Reply-To header)
Philip Newton wrote at 2004-11-04 07:00:02 (+0100)
> On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 02:31:38 +0000, Tim May <butsuri@...> wrote:
> > Danny Wier wrote at 2004-10-24 06:38:00 (-0500)
> > > From: "Tim May"
> > >
> > > > Incidentally, what languages _do_ allow /N/ initally?
> > > > Offhand, I can only think of Vietnamese and Tibetan, and
> > > > it's a tricky thing to look up.
> > >
> > > Albanian, and I have no idea how that happened.
> >
> > Really? How is this indicated in Albanian writing? I've just
> > been looking into the language, and I can't see any mention of
> > it.
>
> "ng", I suppose.
>
> At any rate, http://www.google.com/search?q=nga+site%3Aal finds a
> number of hits for the word "nga" in Albanian sites.
>
That's very interesting. It certainly appears that "nga" is an
Albanian word - it seems to be a preposition meaning "from" "of" or
"by".
On the other hand, the UPSID profile for Albanian doesn't list a velar
nasal
http://www.langmaker.com/db/ups_albanian.htm
and none of the pronunciation guides I can find describe either a
velar nasal phoneme or an "ng" digraph. Which leaves me wondering how
"nga" is pronounced.
> (Strangely enough, it also finds a number of sentences containing
> e-dot, which I had only known from Lithuanian -- I only know
> e-umlaut for Albanian. Maybe a dialect compromise meaning "some
> dialects pronounce this /ë/, others /e/"?)
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
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