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Re: USAGE: WOMYN (was: RE: [CONLANG] Optimum numberofsymbols,though mostly talking about french now

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Monday, May 27, 2002, 1:27
Quoting Kendra <kendra@...>:

> I can't think of any, unless you mean words like fireman/firemen. It > depends on the word, though. fireman/firemen is /mIn/, but > policeman/policemen is /mAn/ (or probably more usually /m@n/ if > speaking quickly) and /mIn/ two syllable ones like 'milkman' are > usually /mAn/, and I want to say /mEn/ (I'm not even really sure > sure if I have the right vowel there. Bah, vowels) > but I think most people would go with /mIn/. I'm not very good > at speaking.
I'm actually glad you brought up these other examples. It made me realize that some of these words have intricacies I'd never realized before: (1) "fireman" [faIrm@n / fa:rm@n] "firemen" [faIrm@n / fa:rm@n]; "policeman" [p@lism@n / plism@n] "policemen" [p@lism@n / plism@n]; both words are bimorphemic, but phonologically indistinct, where plurality surfaces only in subject-verb agreement. (2) "milkman" [mILkmE-n] "milkmen" [mILkmIn]: these are distinct, and presumably do not reduce to schwa since the whole notion of receiving milk by delivery is entirely foreign to my experience. Probably, this means it's really a phrase with "man" as head and "milk" as modifier. ===================================================================== Thomas Wier "...koruphàs hetéras hetére:isi prosápto:n / Dept. of Linguistics mú:tho:n mè: teléein atrapòn mían..." University of Chicago "To join together diverse peaks of thought / 1010 E. 59th Street and not complete one road that has no turn" Chicago, IL 60637 Empedocles, _On Nature_, on speculative thinkers