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Re: Consonant Table

From:Chris Bates <christopher.bates@...>
Date:Thursday, April 3, 2003, 8:39
I probably didn't explain what I meant very well.... if you write the
word tin, the t is alveolar and the i is pronounced. But if i is
followed by another vowel sound, for instance tian, ti together
represents one palatal sound instead of t + i. I don't think they can
occur in front of consonants. I've gone stop mad suddenly lol... I was
thinking about adding a set of palatised velar consonants (because PIE
has them, and it was reading about PIE that made me add so many stops in
the first place).

>I was able to deciper it (if you want a table, you might as well make an >HTML document and send us a link). Other than the <k> = /kw/ which threw me >off, I think it's good. > >About the palatals <ti>, <di>, <dhi>, etc.: can these consonants occur >before other consonants, or only before vowels? If so, then I'd consider >using <tj>, <dj> etc. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chris Bates" <christopher.bates@...> >To: <CONLANG@...> >Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:07 AM >Subject: Consonant Table > > > > >>Joe, >> I have started again now, but I've just reinventing it all because >>I read a bit about proto indo european and decided to nick a few bits of >>its phonology, so I'm changing things to fit in the extra sounds. I >>borrowed some of its stop consonants and its tendency to have vocalic l >>r m n y and w. So now I have >> >>p b bh t d dh ti di dhi >>c g gh k q qh ' >>mh m nh n ni >> ngh ng f s sh >>ç h h >> >> r >>w y >> l li >> >>I'm not sure if its any good, or at all consistent, I might have to >>revise it again. bh etc are aspirated voiced stops, mh etc are unvoiced >>nasals, ç is a palatal unvoiced fricative, and the velar and glottal >>fricatives are allophones. ' is a glottal stop, k, q etc are labialised, >>the r is a uvular trill (since I can do that in all positions lol) and >>the ti, di, .... li just mean that t d and all the alveolar consonants >>except s become palatised when followed by i or y instead of the i or y >>being pronounced separately. All the fricatives except ç and h become >>voiced when used intervocally or in a voiced consonant cluster. I think >>I might have to remove some sounds.... >>BTW, mind me asking if you work at the university or study at it Joe? I >>went for an interview there but I was turned down because I wasn't >>clever enough dammit lol. Plus I pissed off the statistics tutor. >> >>Chris. >> >> >> > > >

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