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Re: CHAT: My new treasure

From:Adam Walker <dreamertwo@...>
Date:Tuesday, January 22, 2002, 11:17
That's odd.  I'd heard that Lyon SL was a seperate language from LSF.

Have you ever seen the American finger alphabet?  If so could you tell if it
was similar to the French?

Adam



>From: Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...> >Reply-To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...> >To: CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU >Subject: Re: My new treasure >Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:48:37 +0100 > >En réponse à Adam Walker <dreamertwo@...>: > > > > > I don't have my British Sign Language stuff with me here in Taiwan or > > I'd > > scoure it for BSL influences. One thing that surprise me is that HKSL > > has a > > finger alphabet (TSL doesn't). That in itself wasn't really shocking, > > just > > a bit of a surprise, but it did shock me to see that the HKSL finger > > alphabet is NOT the BSL alphabet which is two-handed. THey use the > > AMERICAN > > alphabet! Exacly, letter-for-letter, the same. Does anyone know if > > the > > American fnger alphabet was borrowed from one of the French sign > > languages? > >Well, IIRC French SL alphabet is single-handed (at least that's how it's >represented in the drawings explaining how to use it). Seeing in the >program >they have on Dutch TV to learn sign language, they use the same one. It >could >be that Britain, as usual, wanted to do differently than France, and >invented >their own SL alphabet :)) (and made it two-handed to make sure that it will >never be like the French one :)) ). > > > (For that matter how much does Parisian SL differ from Lyon SL?) > >Much less even than Parisian French and Lyon French. France is centralised >when >it comes to spoken language, but is even worse with sign language. All sign >language school teach the same SL, since most of SL teachers come from the >same >school, which doesn't help to grow diversity :)) . Also, the fact that the >number of sign language teachers is quite low (sign language has never been >very much in favor in France. Many doctors, when discovering a child is >deaf, >still advise the parents never to have their children taught sign language, >telling them that it will prevent them from learning anything about spoken >language... and making in this way the life of those children awful, >preventing >them to have a normal social life) obliges people from many places in >France to >move to Paris to learn sign language, so basically FSL is quite monolithed. > >Christophe. > >http://rainbow.conlang.free.fr > >Take your life as a movie: do not let anybody else play the leading role.
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