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Re: Country Names -- Local Pronunciations

From:And Rosta <a.rosta@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 14, 2003, 10:04
Herman:
> On Sun, 11 May 2003 07:53:00 +0100, Joe <joe@...> wrote: > > >Sorry, another comment - the UK is not [INl@n], it's always [D@ju:kEj], and > >England is pronounced [INgl@nd] by pretty much everybody.. > > It's possible there was a transcription error, but it's been so long that I > have no idea who gave me that pronunciation. Does anyone remember? I'm > pretty much assuming that what people sent to the list is an accurate > reflection of their own pronunciation and usage, but I could easily have > made mistakes converting various ASCII-IPA pronunciations to IPA
As for the final [n] versus [nd], pretty much everybody has [nd] in citation form, which can reduce to [n] in connected speech. As for [INgl] versus [INl], this is pretty much subject to idiolectal variation among speakers who contrast [Ng] and [N] -- I for example say [INl@n(d)] & am not unusual in this, though it is a minority pronunciation. The phenomenon is not restricted to this word -- the [g] deletes before sonorants in general, e.g. [laNwIdZ] v. [laNgwidZ] -- I say the former & I guess Joe says the latter. --And.

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John Cowan <cowan@...>