Re: rhotic miscellany, and a usage note

On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 23:50:33 -0600, Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...> wrote:

>From:    "J. 'Mach' Wust" <j_mach_wust@...>
>> > Hitler was Austrian IIRC and began his political rise in Bavaria. Is
>> > the trilled r possibly a southern feature?
>>
>> I don't know how the /r/ is realized in Bavarian dialects. Hitler,
>> however, didn't have no Bavarian in his speech. He spoke just the
>> standard media accent of his time.
>
>Really? I could swear I've heard recordings of him where he used
>the alveolar tap or trill rather than the uvular trill for <r> --
>especially in "das deutsche [rrrr]eich".
So you're affirming that the alveolar tap-trill is a feature of
Bavarian-Austrian. However, the alveolar trill is also demanded by the
standard pronunciation, which was much more important by that time than it
is today, so it's occurrence doesn't prove anything.

gry@s:
j. 'mach' wust