Re: Of accents & dialects (was: Azurian phonology)

Had a look at that just now (or in Norwich "I just now went had a look") -
how interesting! My dad was in the army for many years, and spent several
years in India, where (as is usual in such circumstances) not only did the
locals pick up 'substandard', 'squaddie English' but also the English tended
to assimilate what was probably seen as substandard Hindi. I have Romany
speakers in my family, and early on noticed that some Romany words were like
the 'Indian' words my dad brought back: thus ' I. pony' = R. pani "water",
and I can remember sweets being called 'kooshies', R. kushti "good", this
last, like 'chav' (R. chavi, "child") more or less part of English.
Strange about the accent, especially the final rise-fall! This is actually a
feature of East Anglian intonation, and is especially associated with
Suffolk (the county immediately South of Norfolk) - we often tease them
about it!
Mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eugene Oh" <un.doing@...>
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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 11:35 PM
Subject: Re: Of accents & dialects (was: Azurian phonology)


> Gosh, that is so like Singlish!
> Check out the Wikipedia article on Singlish. Though I bet the -accent- is
> different in Norfolk from Singapore.
>
> Eugene
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 10:44 PM, Michael Poxon <mike@...>
> wrote:
>
>> That's certainly the case here (Norfolk, East Anglia) where, for
>> instance,
>> all verb paradigms are regularised ("He say" for both "he says" and "he
>> said") and we have "to have just now" as a sort of recent past "I just
>> now
>> see him comin' 'long the loke")
>> (way aye man, ya canna whack 'em!)
>> Mike
>>
>>>
>>> Are you speaking from an American or British perspective? Traditional
>>> British _dialects_ often differed quite markedly from standard English -
>>> particularly in the use pronouns and in certain verb forms. Many of
>>> these
>>> dialects disappeared during the 20th century, leaving only more or less
>>> standard English spoken with a regional accent.
>>>
>>> If someone speaks standard English with a Geordie accent, we southerners
>>> can generally follow what's said. But if someone speaks in the Geordie
>>> dialect, then we haven't a hope    ;)
>>>
>>> --
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