Re: IPA/SAMP question

> Date:         Wed, 14 Nov 2001 11:16:42 -0500
> From: John Cowan <jcowan@...>
>
> Lars Henrik Mathiesen wrote:
> > [...] otherwise you could perhaps have lowered the /E/ to [{] to
> > leave room for the extra phoneme (as [E]).
> >
> > [...] you could even use advanced/retracted tongue root, though I
> > admit that I don't know how it sounds myself.
>
> As has been pointed out here, mere lowering doesn't get you past
> [E]; reaching [{] is a matter of ATR.
It seems I haven't been paying attention... *makes silly noises*.

OK, so that's what ATR feels like. There might be room for an [e_A] in
the vowel space, then, contrasting with all of [e], [E] and [{]. On
the other hand, the sound of [e_A] seems (to me) to share some of the
qualities of centralized vowels, so if a language has those as well,
it might be hard to keep [e_A] and [@] apart, for instance.

Lars Mathiesen (U of Copenhagen CS Dep) <thorinn@...> (Humour NOT marked)