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Re: Previous IPA Question Revisited

From:Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...>
Date:Thursday, January 14, 1999, 17:51
On Thu, 14 Jan 1999 16:40:24 +0800 Douglas Koller <laokou@...>
>Steg Belsky wrote: > >> Now i know that the "chinese {x}" sound is represented in IPA by the >> "looped C", and that it's voiced equivalent is the "looped Z". >> And the ones with T and D attached are the affricate versions? > >> So what are the symbols for the versions of these sounds that sound >more >> like /s/ and /z/ than /S/ and /Z/ ?
>I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for (are you asking about >Chinese or just these sounds in general?), so...
I was actually just looking for the sounds in general, but thanks for the information about the Chinese sounds.
>Mandarin does this: >Palatal >------- >j /tC/ t+curly-tail c, unvoiced and unaspirated
So this is the affricative of {x} ? Is the /t/ the same whether it's pronounced like in English, or if it's pronounced with the tongue in the same position as the /C/ ? Which does Chinese use?
>q /tC'/ " " " " " and aspiration >x /C/ curly-tail c
>Cantonese >Palatals >-------- >j /tC/ >q /tC'/ >x /C/ >jj /dC<vcd>/ d+curly-tail z >yy /C<vcd>/ curly-tail z
>Kou >
Thanks -Stephen (Steg)! ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]