Re: Translation to Latin

Here's my (long time lurker) crack at it.  The most literal translation
seems to go:

Sine honore pugnanda, sine gloria triumphatur. - By fighting without honor,
it is triumphed without glory.


But FWIW I'd personally express the gist more positively:

Honore pugno ut gloria triumphem.  I fight with honor that I might triumph
with glory.


Or simply:

Honore pugna, gloria triumpha!  Fight with honor, triumph with glory!


On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 4:00 AM, Jean-François Colson <jf@...> wrote:

> Hello
>
> I know some one who's making a coat of arms (blason).
> He'd like to add a text in Latin, a language he doesn't know.
> My knowledge of Latin is extremely limited.
> Is there some one on this list who knows Latin enough to translate the
> following sentence?
>    [French]: « À combattre sans honneur, on triomphe sans gloire. »
>    [English]: « With fighting without honor, one triumphs without glory. »
> Thanks a lot for the help.
>
> Jean-François Colson
>