Re: I'm back!! with a question..........
|From:||Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>|
|Date:||Saturday, April 10, 2004, 9:57|
Quoting Frank George Valoczy <valoczy@...>:
> >> and I'm working on something extremely implausible and ridiculous :D
> > Why am I not surprised?
> *laughs*, am I THAT predictable??
Yep! ... :)
> >> How about for voiced labiodental stop?
> > Isn't any. You might try [b_-] (retracted [b]) or [f_r] (raised [f]).
> > At least, the IPA chart doesn't shade it as impossible, which an old
> > textbook
> > I saw did ...
> Ok, I'll go with the former.
> And I can articulate it just fine...and it's clearly distinguishable from
Me too, but some people simply don't have even enough teeth to do it.
Apparently no natlang distinguish them phonemically.
And re: a point in your other post, yes [t_T] is a valid way of indicating a
dental affricate. Unless it contrasts with the cluster, you could also simply
write [tT] (or do it anyway and separate the cluster with a hyphen, like how
the X-SAMPA documentation suggests transscribing Polish 'cz' and 'trz' as [tS]
I guess if you wanted to be painfully exact, you'd need writing [t_d_T], but
that's beyond the dark as well as the pale.