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Re: YAEPT: apparently bizarre 'A's (was Re: YEAPT: f/T (was Re: Other Vulgar Lat

From:Tristan Alexander McLeay <conlang@...>
Date:Wednesday, February 22, 2006, 11:00
On 22/02/06, John Vertical <johnvertical@...> wrote, quoting
me quoting him:
> > > I thought that "hearth" was /h3rT/? If it has /Ar/ instead, I guess that > > > makes "heart" a little more regular then. (Maybe there was a minor shift > >of > > > */E:/ > */a/ between h and r+coronal...) > > > >Nup, "hearth" definitely isn't /h3rT/... I know there was at one stage > >a change of /Er/ -> /ar/; > > >I assumed this > >was the same change (with the /E:/ > /E/ earlier), which would help > >explain why "heard" is /h3:d/, if it shortened after the change. > > I still think the h might play a part in it too - or how do you explain > "earth" not going thru the same shift then?
Same way I explained "heard" not going through the same shift (shortened after the /Er/>/ar/ shift but before the /Er/>/@r/ shift). How would you deal with it? i.e., using the words "hearth, heard, earth, star, verse" T0 hE:rT hE:rd E:rT stEr vErs T1 hErT hE:rd E:rT stEr vErs T2 harT hE:rd E:rT star ?vars T3 harT hErd ErT star vErs T4 harT h@rd @rT star v@rs As for why they shortened when they did? I have no idea. There's been a lot of irregular shortening in English, particularly with /E:/. (It's worth noting tho that voiced obstruents often have longer vowels & sonorants before them than unvoiced obstruents do.) -- Tristan.