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Re: CPA - An ASCII-based phonetic alphabet

From:Tristan Alexander McLeay <anstouh@...>
Date:Monday, November 19, 2001, 5:13
On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Lars Henrik Mathiesen wrote:

> > X-Priority: 3 > > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > > Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 20:45:28 -0500 > > From: Muke Tever <alrivera@...> > > > > From: "Tristan Alexander McLeay" <anstouh@...> > > > > [That page can't do [w`] ! I shed tears.] > > > > > > Is that even a proper X-Sampa? It put me off until I ignored it and read > > > the next few chars (and then it became obvious). > > > > Hmm, it probably isn't even proper IPA to write a [w] with a retroflex tail. > > The "proper" is probably [r\`_O] or [r\`_w], which are just plain evil. (In > > "CPA", whose thread this is, it looks like it would be [*r._)] or [*r.^w]...) > > Well, IPA (and thus SAMPA) /w/ is a voiced labial-velar approximant, > but I think that Tristan wants a labial-retroflex approximant, without > a velar element. So [w`] seems misleading to me too.
Hmm? I didn't want anything! Or maybe I `wanted' a voiced labial-velar-retroflex approximate from what I saw, but it was Muke who used the [w`] in the first place!
> That aside, the converter page in question seems to balk at any > combination of the X-SAMPA rhoticity/retroflexion diacritic with a > base letter that doesn't have a corresponding combined form in the > Unicode charts. I.e., it accepts things like [r\`], but not [@\`].
There is so a rhoticisied schwa! U+025A according to the PDFs at, which I think is the closest thing to a definitive guide other than those books that I'm never going to get my hands onto :(... Anyway, enough rambles from me... Tristan War doesn't prove who's right, just who's left. - BSD Games' Fortune


Lars Henrik Mathiesen <thorinn@...>