Re: CPA - An ASCII-based phonetic alphabet
|From:||Lars Henrik Mathiesen <thorinn@...>|
|Date:||Sunday, November 18, 2001, 23:20|
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> From: Muke Tever <alrivera@...>
> From: "Tristan Alexander McLeay" <anstouh@...>
> > > [That page can't do [w`] ! I shed tears.]
> > Is that even a proper X-Sampa? It put me off until I ignored it and read
> > the next few chars (and then it became obvious).
> Hmm, it probably isn't even proper IPA to write a [w] with a retroflex tail.
> The "proper" is probably [r\`_O] or [r\`_w], which are just plain evil. (In
> "CPA", whose thread this is, it looks like it would be [*r._)] or [*r.^w]...)
Well, IPA (and thus SAMPA) /w/ is a voiced labial-velar approximant,
but I think that Tristan wants a labial-retroflex approximant, without
a velar element. So [w`] seems misleading to me too.
That aside, the converter page in question seems to balk at any
combination of the X-SAMPA rhoticity/retroflexion diacritic with a
base letter that doesn't have a corresponding combined form in the
Unicode charts. I.e., it accepts things like [r\`], but not [@\`].
Lars Mathiesen (U of Copenhagen CS Dep) <thorinn@...> (Humour NOT marked)