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Re: CPA - An ASCII-based phonetic alphabet

From:Lars Henrik Mathiesen <thorinn@...>
Date:Sunday, November 18, 2001, 23:20
> X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 > Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2001 20:45:28 -0500 > From: Muke Tever <alrivera@...> > > From: "Tristan Alexander McLeay" <anstouh@...> > > > [That page can't do [w`] ! I shed tears.] > > > > Is that even a proper X-Sampa? It put me off until I ignored it and read > > the next few chars (and then it became obvious). > > Hmm, it probably isn't even proper IPA to write a [w] with a retroflex tail. > The "proper" is probably [r\`_O] or [r\`_w], which are just plain evil. (In > "CPA", whose thread this is, it looks like it would be [*r._)] or [*r.^w]...)
Well, IPA (and thus SAMPA) /w/ is a voiced labial-velar approximant, but I think that Tristan wants a labial-retroflex approximant, without a velar element. So [w`] seems misleading to me too. That aside, the converter page in question seems to balk at any combination of the X-SAMPA rhoticity/retroflexion diacritic with a base letter that doesn't have a corresponding combined form in the Unicode charts. I.e., it accepts things like [r\`], but not [@\`]. Lars Mathiesen (U of Copenhagen CS Dep) <thorinn@...> (Humour NOT marked)


Tristan Alexander McLeay <anstouh@...>