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Re: Random Stuff in Celesiran Languages

From:Joe Fatula <fatula3@...>
Date:Thursday, May 8, 2003, 6:59
From: "Jan van Steenbergen" <ijzeren_jan@...>
Subject: Re: Random Stuff in Celesiran Languages

> --- Joe Fatula skrzypszy: > > > What's interesting is that I originally did not intend to get such a > > language out. In case I didn't make it clear, all of the Celesiran > > languages are descended from a common ancestor. They certainly branched
> > quite a bit, but it's not like I mind. > > I know that! That's why I would like to see the numbers (1-10 at least).
> are great for comparing languages. See Mark Rosenfelder.
Finally getting back to this... Here are the numbers from 1 to 10 in each of the four languages: Zdava - ev - pan - sta - gr - pedn - jedev - jepan - jesta - vazev - pjec Torantine - ër - pan - tha - gru - peca - ithër - ipha - dësa - här - peicar Razdiat - ev - pan - está - gru - pedza - idev - ipan - idze - faze - pidzar Tazhenat - ev - pan - sha - gre - peca - idhev - iban - eshta - fasev - ficar Suprisingly enough, even though a sample text shows great variance between the languages, the numbers haven't changed all that much in almost a thousand years. Then again, I suppose it's sufficient, as the languages certainly aren't mutually intelligible, and the link between Zdava and the others isn't generally recognized by the people who speak these languages. And here are the original texts I posted in these four languages (plus one in English) that sparked the conversation. English -- "The river brings many fish to the village, the forest lifts up red fruit, and the sky bears rain for the wheat - this is a good land." Zdava -- "Zlaca elba zanor ladnorn gedmora, tura stanasn slidjecan obrana, jer aca cila visanan na dvanapn - za z brekuc nuzda." Torantine -- "Gelmäta cela la hanun lacurun, thanäs turu ledein istiantun, idon hisänun cai danan saita xilia - lo brakos niuza da." Razdiat -- "Las zelba zan lathorun gedmath, tur enath esledín istien, ion ishen silia fisenun za dwenæth - ån lo bragon niuzden." Tazhenat -- "Slas ajela ladzurun san chelat, turu stanas isen sledhik, id ihet ksile pishanun aja enirat - zai slo nisa avragus."