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Musical conlangs (was: Poetique)

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Wednesday, January 7, 2004, 18:49
On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 07:11 AM, Costentin Cornomorus wrote:

> --- Christophe Grandsire > <christophe.grandsire@...> wrote: >> En rÈponse ‡ Costentin Cornomorus : >> >> >>> Like in actual music, I don't see why you >>> couldn't pause after a phrase. Just like in >>> spoken language! >> >> The problem is that in SolReSol you have to >> pause the equivalent of a beat >> after each and every word. Otherwise the >> language becomes unparsable. Since >> SolReSol words have 1, 2 or 3 notes, you cannot >> make a nice rythm out of it. > > Indeed. A problem for Solresol.
Yep - a problem for SolreSol, *not* an in-built problem for all musical conlangs (muslangs??).
> But Ray was, as > far as I recall, proposing a new musical conlang,
Spot on! I have mooted this several times over the years on this and other lists. I believe one or two others have mooted similar ideas.
> and I think phrasal pauses could work similar to > natural speech.
Indeed - why not? I see _no_ intrinsic reason why one has to pause after each and every word in any sort of language. It seems like a design defect to me. The idea of a muslang has intrigued me for many decades, but my technical knowledge of musicology is, alas, more limited than I would like; so it has made even less progress than BrSc! I first encountered a muslang many years ago - way back in the 1950s in fact. Over here in the UK we had an excellent comic paper called "The Eagle" which featured, inter alia, the adventures of "Dan Dare, Pilot of the Future" (a hero of mine, second only to Roy Rogers :) In one series they visited Mercury; the Mercurian language consisted only of the five 'classic' vowels pronounced on the various different tones on one octave the major scale (doh through to the doh above) thus giving 40 (8 x 5) different syllables. The only other thing I remember about it is that it had no verbs. At the time I didn't think too much about it - but I have over the past two or three decades tried to discover more but so far in vain. There are, indeed, web-sites about "The Eagle" and even about "Dan Dare" (obviously made an impression on more kids tha just me!). But so far I've discovered nothing about the 'Mercurian' muslang. I don't suppose there's anyone on the list who has more info on 'Mercurian' than the meager amount I have? Ray =============================================== (home) (work) =============================================== "A mind which thinks at its own expense will always interfere with language." J.G. Hamann, 1760


Costentin Cornomorus <elemtilas@...>