Re: Lateral Plosive

Nahuatl |tl| is described to be a "laterally released voiceless alveolar
affricate" on http://www.yale.edu/nahuatl/lessons/mainle02.html . This means
that the |l| in the word |Nahuatl| is not a syllabic consonant, but belongs
with the former syllable. I suppose this is the closest possible to a
'lateral stop'.

On Mon, 1 Nov 2004 22:36:08 -0500, Paul Bennett <paul-bennett@...> wrote:
>
>Prelateralised is more or less the same deal as prenasalised, but with an
>L instead of an N.
>
>Put the rest of your talking equipment into the right position for
>consonant X, but leave the sides of the tongue in the approximant
>position, start making the approximant, and then close it off to make the
>plosive, and release as you normally would.
>
>Basically, pronounce an L at the right POA (or as close as possible), and
>follow it by the plosive. Do this quickly and smoothly enough that it
>sounds like one consonant. I don't have a CXS notation for it, but I've
>seen /nd)/ for prenasalised /d/, so I'd be willing to use /ld)/ for
>prelateralised /d/.
IPA doesn't have any signs for prenasalized or prelateralized sounds, so
they're written as [nd, ld]. I think I remember that I saw a small high |n|
for prenasalization, the same sign as used for nasal release. However, I
think that the notation of [nd, ld] is sufficient, since it seem highly
unnatural to me to pronounce a release inbetween the two sounds (maybe a
bias by the languages I know).

>Same thing backwards for the lateral release. Pronounce the plosive
>followed immediately by an L, and do it quickly and smoothly enough that
>it sounds like one consonant. There *is* CXS for this one, but I'll be
>damned if I can remember it. Maybe /d_l/, which looks vaguely like it
>ought to be right.
Exactly. Though I think that many transcibers wouldn't use this sign but
just write [dl], at least among speakers of languages that have originated
in western Europe. I wonder whether there are any languages at all that
contrast laterally (or nasally) released stops with sequences of stop +
lateral (or nasal)?

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On Tue, 2 Nov 2004 08:11:41 +0300, Dan Sulani <dansulani@...> wrote:
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>How does all this differ from a lateral click?
In the same way a bilabial click differs from a [p], if this is any help...
When producing a [p], you build up a difference of air pressure inside your
lips and outside your lips: Inside, there's more pressure than outside. Like
this, when you open your lips, the air burst out in a (ex)plosion: A [p] is
produced. In the bilabial click, it's the other way round: Inside, there's
less pressure than outside, so the air bursts in when the lips are opened. A
kiss is basically the same as a (very exaggerated) bilabial click.

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