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Re: Yogh in the news

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Saturday, January 14, 2006, 20:31
Paul Bennett skrev:
> On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:56:24 -0500, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> > wrote: > >> On 1/14/06, Thomas Hart Chappell <tomhchappell@...> wrote: >> >>> How does one pronounce "yogh"? >> >> >> Just like it's spelled. :) >> >> I pronounce it /joG/, but I don't know if that's justified >> historically or not. In any case, most Anglophones don't pronounce it >> that way, since [G] doesn't exist in native English phonology. I've >> heard all three of /jog/, /jox/, and /jok/; I'm assuming the last is >> the one intended for the song, since it rhymes with "oak". > > > I'm prone to pronouncing it "yoȝ" myself, which AFAICT is /jouG/ ~ > /jouM\/ m.m. your personal "long o".
The Longman Pronouncing Dictionary (JC Wells) gives /jQg/ or /joug/. I believe that if the Middle English word /jox/ had survived it would have been pronounced /jou/ or /jau/, or maybe /jQf/. I'm afraid any pronunciation with /G/ is entirely unhistorical since ME |gh| spelled /x/; /G/ had become /j/ or /w/ already in late Old English times. -- /BP 8^) -- B.Philip Jonsson mailto:melrochX@melroch.se (delete X) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Truth, Sir, is a cow which will give [skeptics] no more milk, and so they are gone to milk the bull." -- Sam. Johnson (no rel. ;)

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