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CHAT: Dom (was: Werewolf)

From:R A Brown <ray@...>
Date:Monday, September 18, 2006, 18:55
R A Brown wrote:
BPJ asked:
>> And what's the story behind DOMINU > _Dom_ as an ecclesiatical >> appellative (if that is the right word?) > > Used AFAIK principally by the Benedictine order.
I've checked - it's also used by the Cistercian order. It is not a general "ecclesiastical appellative." In Italy (but not elsewhere) clerics, I understand, normally have 'Don' before their name.
>> I'm not even sure in what language DOMINU > _Dom_ might have happened! > > Portuguese. > > AFAIK the > >> regular outcome is _don_ in both Spanish and Italian, with >> _doña/donna_ < DOMINA. Is _Dom_ archaic French? > > Nope - it's Portuguese, see above. Why the Benedictines should have > adopted this form when other took the Spanish/Italian 'Don' I know not.
Other orders did *not* take Spanish/Italian 'Don'. On reflection, I think that the Benedictine & Cistercian 'Dom' is only coincidentally the same as Portuguese 'dom'. I think it is almost certainly a medieval contraction of the Medieval Latin 'Domnus' (Sir, Mr). I do not think it has anything to do with Vulgar Latin and the vernacular development of Romancelangs therefrom. -- Ray ================================== ================================== Nid rhy hen neb i ddysgu. There's none too old to learn. [WELSH PROVERB}