Re: proto-romance questions
From: | Grandsire, C.A. <grandsir@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, December 15, 1999, 9:46 |
J. Barefoot wrote:
>
> Well what'dy'a know? I went to the university library and they had exactly
> what I needed! "Proto-Romance Phonology" by Robert Hall, who my French
> insists on calling Bob {cue creepy music}; it has lots of examples. Perhaps
> I'll post a proto-Romance vocabulary to my webpage. Anyway, not having
> studied Latin really, I have some questions:
> 1) the -ere verbs (so my sources say) were all stressed on the stem. Do the
> other verb classes have (semi-)regular stress like this? Specifically, are
> the -are verbs stressed on the ending? Because of stress and
> diphthongization rules in my current sketch, the -ere (-ara) verbs are
> merging with the -are (-aira), by analogy of inflection, not infinitve form.
> Okay, so I have a question. Let me tell y'all what I've got so far. {cough
> *peer review?* cough}
>
> stops: p t k b d g {pi tau kappa beta delta gamma} <-- Greek orthography!
> fricatives: f s sh v z zh h {phi sigma sigma* upsilon zeta zeta* breathy
> diacritic} *still iffy on the orthography of /S/ and /Z/; probably
> sigma+iota and zeta+iota, as /S/ and /Z/ were originally allophones of /s/
> and /z/, becoming contrastive by borrowing(?) "h" also reintroduced by
> borrowing
> affricates: /tS/ {kappa+iota / kappa+eta}
I like this one!
> nasals: m n {mu nu} Do many languages have a palatal m?
Romance languages often have a palatal n and a palatal l, but palatal m
seems rather rare for me. However, palatalisation of liquids and nasals
in Romance languages is very frequent, so I think you can have your
palatal m if you want :) .
> liquids: l r {lambda rho}
> semivowels: y {iota}
> vowels: i {iota} u {omega}
> e {eta} o {omicron}
> a {alpha}
>
Interesting, omega is used instead of upsilon for the u. I like it :) .
>
> A sentence: Amo' kriai'ra una lea'ba!
>
Me too! :) Good job Jennifer. I'd like my Romance language Reman to be
like that, but I wasn't consistent when I made it (nevertheless, you can
take a look at it at http://reman.conlang.org, if you understand French
:) ).
> Jennifer
>
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