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Re: going without "without"

From:Irina Rempt-Drijfhout <ira@...>
Date:Tuesday, August 17, 1999, 21:40
On Tue, 17 Aug 1999, Matt Pearson wrote:

> Also, whatever strategy I adopt will have to work > for clausal adjuncts as well as nominal ones. "She left without > saying goodbye", for example. "She left saying-goodbye-less-ly" > is a tad too polysynthetic for my tastes...
Le fulut farey liz laynynat RFL take.away-PRT-3s goodbye without speak-PNC-PRS-3s "She left without saying goodbye". Literally: She took herself away without she-says "may you reach your goal". (or: "may you arrive"). The use of the present tense and imperfective aspect (with zero marker) in the subordinate clause indicates that the action takes place at the same time as that of the main clause; using the perfective aspect (_laynynenat_, where -yn- would probably be elided) would make it mean "She left without having said goodbye" (makes sense, but means something different, most probably that she was saying goodbye very elaborately and left suddenly before she could finish it) and the preterite in the subordinate clause would imply that she left without having said goodbye earlier (a kind of pluperfect) or having ever said goodbye on any occasion that she could have. Note that _liz_ is used as a conjunction; it joins _farey laynynat_ to _le fulut_ and appears in the proper place for a clause conjunction, after the first constituent. Compare: Le fulut farey so laynynat RFL take.away-PRT-3s goodbye and speak-PNC-PRS-3s "She left and said goodbye", or "She left, saying goodbye". Irina Varsinen an laynynay, saraz no arlet rastynay. irina@rempt.xs4all.nl (myself) http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt/irina/index.html (English) http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsarempt/irina/backpage.html (Nederlands)