Re: NATLANGS: Difthongization across Europa
From: | David J. Peterson <dedalvs@...> |
Date: | Tuesday, February 19, 2008, 1:24 |
Roger:
<<
It's surprising that, for you, only nasals are involved. And maybe
only /n/??
>>
No, all nasals (except that before [N], it's not a diphthong, just
plain old monophthongal [e] [no typo there; the vowel isn't
anywhere close to [&]]).
Roger:
<<
If you're any example, this is a case of East >> West. How about
your contemporaries, or teen-agers?
>>
No, I don't think so. This, for example...
<<
bed and bad, sure and shore, bag and beg, can and Ken etc.
>>
...just sounds crazy. :) It's just before nasals. I think it could
have come about spontaneously. _C[+nasal] is a hotbed for
sound change.
Roger:
<<
How about Tom, CD-Rom? (not too many exs. of /CAm/) YAEPT ALERT!! How
about "balm"? I have [A:] in all these, and pronounce the /l/ in balm.
>>
Yep. All these rhyme here:
Tom
bomb
balm
palm
psalm
calm
CD-rom
Cham
qualm
mom
'Nam
prom
com
etc.
I wouldn't know how to pronounce the "l" in "balm".
Roger:
<<
Making it 2 syllables is just for emphasis. Same with [Si:.It].
>>
Of course, if it's a true diphthong, it's still monosyllabic,
isn't it? :) There might be something to this, though:
Roger:
<<
That's just the plain old Southern drawl, probably in most AAVE too.
>>
Though Snoop was born in Long Beach like me, his speech may
have been influenced by those who came from the South, and
his speech, in turn, influenced others', etc.
-David
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