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Re: Cyrillic letters for /T/ and /D/

From:Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
Date:Friday, February 22, 2008, 8:19
On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...> wrote:
> How would you all react to a (non-Slavic) Cyrillic-based > alphabet using upside-down Cyrillic {s} and {z} for /T/ and > /D/? The idea is that a 19th century alphabet maker was able > to turn existing lead types upside down to create new > symbols, but not to add diacritics or wholly new shapes.
Makes sense to me, and I'm sure I've seen that kind of practice before (though I can't think of one right now). Ah wait, I remember seeing upside-down <G> as a surrogate for an eng, and also seeing upside-down upsilon-circumflex and iota-circumflex in early Modern Greek to indicate semivowel /j/. I read an article saying that they were intended to be written as a right-side-up iota or upsilon with a breve underneath, but an upside-down letter (so the circumflex would be "beneath" the character) was the best they could do in their typesetting. So - sounds like a plan to me. On Fri, Feb 22, 2008 at 9:09 AM, David J. Peterson <dedalvs@...> wrote:
> Wasn't their a native Cyrillic character for /T/? If I'm remember > right, it looked like an upper case Roman V. The letter I'm > thinking of is a V with a little tail on the upper right. It's pictured > here, but it doesn't give it's value, unless I'm missing it: > > <>
I think you're looking for the one to its left instead, that looks like an O with a horizontal bar in the middle. I'm not sure whether izhitsa or fita ever stood for [y] or [T], though, or whether they were merely etymological conventions indicating that this [i] or [f] (respectively) were an upsilon or a theta (respectively) in the original Greek. Later on, they got chucked because they did not indicate separate phonemes and were, therefore, redundant. (A bit, perhaps, like the way <K> got all but discarded in Latin in favour of using <C> for /k/ everywhere.) Cheers, -- Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>