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R: Re: R: Moraic codas [was Re: 'Yemls Morphology]

From:Mangiat <mangiat@...>
Date:Sunday, July 15, 2001, 10:38
And wrote:

> > Would it be better expressing the general rule in these terms: the last > > foot is stressed (considering the abovementioned foots to be
respectively a
> > trochee, a dactylus, a hiambus and a spondee?). > & > > Rule 1: a diphthong/long V in the ultima is stressed, otherwise-- > > Rule 2: a heavy penult (-CVC- or -CVV-, where VV marks a long vowel) is > > stressed, otherwise-- > > Rule 3: stress the antepenult (no matter whether heavy or light) > > Here's my suggested formulation: > > Stress the rightmost bimoraic syllable or the antepenult mora, whichever
> the rightmost. > > * If 'antepenult' means antepenult mora: > 1. Codas are moraic; hence IRmaden, irMANden, *IRmanden -- /man/ is
> 2. Word-final Cs are not moraic: hence IRmaden, *irMAden.
This is a very good explanation.
> (2) could be explained by treating final Cs as onsets. A test would be > what happens if final CC clusters are allowed.
They *shouldn't* be allowed.
> We would predict that the > final syllable of CC-final words would attract stress because it is
> e.g. irmaDENT.
I agree with you. But I really don't know if the language will allow CC clusters word finally.
> If, though, the stress were IRmadent or irMAdent, then the story would
> to change. Can we have more data please?
Let's suppose that such a word would be allowed: *i r m a: d e n t | | /\ | | µ µ µ µ µ µ \/ \/ \/ s s s /irma'dent/ But what would happen if the _a_ were short??? *i r m a d e n t | | | | | µ µ µ µ µ \/ | \/ s s s /irma'dent/ What should I do with that mora there in, alone??? Luca


And Rosta <a.rosta@...>