Re: R: Re: R: Moraic codas [was Re: 'Yemls Morphology]

Luca:
> And wrote:
[...]
> > Here's my suggested formulation:
> >
> > Stress the rightmost bimoraic syllable or the antepenult mora, whichever
> > is the rightmost.
> >
> > * If 'antepenult' means antepenult mora:
> > 1. Codas are moraic; hence IRmaden, irMANden, *IRmanden -- /man/ is
> > bimoraic.
> > 2. Word-final Cs are not moraic: hence IRmaden, *irMAden.
>
> This is a very good explanation.
>
> > (2) could be explained by treating final Cs as onsets. A test would be
> > what happens if final CC clusters are allowed.
>
> They *shouldn't* be allowed.
>
> > We would predict that the
> > final syllable of CC-final words would attract stress because it is
> > bimoraic, e.g. irmaDENT.
>
> I agree with you. But I really don't know if the language will allow CC
> clusters word finally.
>
> > If, though, the stress were IRmadent or irMAdent, then the story would
> > have to change. Can we have more data please?
>
> Let's suppose that such a word would be allowed:
Luca, are you sure you're using a monowidth font in drawing your diagrams?
I'm receiving them in plain text encoding, but they're out of alignment.

> *i r m a: d e n t
>   | |     /\     |  |
>  µ µ   µ µ   µ µ
>   \/     \/     \/
>   s     s      s
> /irma'dent/
>
> But what would happen if the _a_ were short???
>
> *i r m a d e n t
>   | |     |     |  |
>  µ µ   µ   µ µ
>   \/     |     \/
>   s     s      s
> /irma'dent/
>
> What should I do with that mora there in, alone???
What's the problem? the /ma/ is a monomoraic syllable. Stress falls on
the rightmost bimoraic syllable, viz. /den/.

BTW, the final /t/, being an onset, could be seen as a kind of
zero-moraic syllable... [NB I am not a Licensed Phonologist; Dirk is
our official phonology wonk and guru.]

--And.

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