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Re: Measuring language change

From:Hawksinger <hawksinger@...>
Date:Wednesday, April 21, 1999, 21:31
Nik Taylor wrote:
> Glotochronology has been discredited. There's no consistent rate of > change. I have read of an Australian language that changed so much in > just 15 years, that someone who had been away from the tribe during
I have over the years done a fair amount of work with Meso-American lgs, it seems to be required to indicate something like "We all know glottochronology has been discredited but here are stats for my lg anyway". I decided early on in my reconstructive work with Proto-Taracahitic that I would not include any glottochronological dates or numbers.
> like how fond the speakers are of foreign words. There are cases of > Australian languages replacing as much as 13% of their vocabulary in 50 > years, mostly with words from other Australian languages, apparently > just because the speakers like to use foreign words!
Word taboos associated with the names of the dead are also important in Australia. I occasionally dig out some of the extinct languages of Texas to play with and it was a problem there too. There was a brief but good description of this in "The Languages of Native America", Campbell & Mithun, 1979. -- Brad Coon hawksinger@fwi.com listowner battleship-l http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7264/battleship-l.html http://www.ipfw.indiana.edu/east1/coon/web/index.htm (home pg. et al.) http://www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/7264 (outdoor and prim.skills) http://members.tripod.com/~Hawksinger (wine and whisky pgs) Civilize the mind and make savage the body. (Chinese proverb)