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Re: OT: /x\/ (was: English and front rounded vowels)

From:René Uittenbogaard <ruittenb@...>
Date:Thursday, December 13, 2007, 16:19
Benct Philip Jonsson:

> > Yes, or rather the Russian /f/ for Greek /T/ -- substituting > > a native phoneme for a foreign one in a way which strikes > > other foreigners used to another substitution funny: we > > expect /s`/ pro /x\/, so /f/ is funny, Germans expect /t/ > > pro /T/, so /f/ is funny.
2007/12/13, <li_sasxsek@...>:
> [f] for /T/ is known in dialects of English like Cockney. What is > interesting about /T/ is how some L2's will say [t] and others > [s].
Or how (most) Dutch know perfectly well how to pronounce /T/, but substitute /d/ for /D/ nevertheless. Rene