Re: Passive sentences and indirect objects
From: | Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> |
Date: | Monday, February 7, 2005, 9:21 |
Hi!
Philip responded to me privately, because I accidentally replied offlist:
> > Wait, don't forget the German indirect passive voice (or whatever you
> > want to call it) with 'bekommen' (or colloq. 'kriegen'):
> >
> > Ich habe das Buch von meinem Cousin vorgelesen bekommen.
> >
> > So, German *can* promote dative arguments to subject position.
>
> Hm... true.
>
> Though that doesn't work for all dative arguments:
>
> *"Ich habe geholfen bekommen"
> *"Der König hat vom General gedient bekommen"
Ah, yes, also true! :-) Maybe a direkt object is needed to make it
grammatical:
?Ich hab vorgelesen bekommen.
Ich hab etwas vorgelesen bekommen.
The first one is almost ungrammatical for me, but not as completely as
your examples.
> (BTW: was this meant for the list?)
Indeed. Gmail again. If I could only tell the Listserv software that
Gmail users don't mean their 'Reply-To'. And if only I could pay
attention before posting... :-)
I've redirected this back to the list now.
**Henrik
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