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Re: Passive sentences and indirect objects

From:Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>
Date:Monday, February 7, 2005, 9:21
Hi!

Philip responded to me privately, because I accidentally replied offlist:
> > Wait, don't forget the German indirect passive voice (or whatever you > > want to call it) with 'bekommen' (or colloq. 'kriegen'): > > > > Ich habe das Buch von meinem Cousin vorgelesen bekommen. > > > > So, German *can* promote dative arguments to subject position. > > Hm... true. > > Though that doesn't work for all dative arguments: > > *"Ich habe geholfen bekommen" > *"Der König hat vom General gedient bekommen"
Ah, yes, also true! :-) Maybe a direkt object is needed to make it grammatical: ?Ich hab vorgelesen bekommen. Ich hab etwas vorgelesen bekommen. The first one is almost ungrammatical for me, but not as completely as your examples.
> (BTW: was this meant for the list?)
Indeed. Gmail again. If I could only tell the Listserv software that Gmail users don't mean their 'Reply-To'. And if only I could pay attention before posting... :-) I've redirected this back to the list now. **Henrik

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