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Re: Building up a FAQ: Please reply

From:Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Date:Tuesday, January 22, 2002, 5:39
Bob Greenwade wrote:
>>Very common: lst pl. inclusive 'I and others, including you' >>vs. lst pl. exclusive 'I and others, excluding you' > > Here's a thought for some of you building your pronouns: how about a >separate, distinct sense for 'I and you, but not others'? :-]
Now that you point it out, I may have mis-glossed: 1st pers.incl. probably _is_ 'I and you-all", though perhaps it could be extended to include absent others, as in "kita orang Indonesia..." (an Indonesian is speaking to other Indonesians) "we Indonesians...." vs. "kami orang Indonesia" (an Indonesian speaking to e.g. an American) "we Indonesians....'" Indonesian: kita kurang suka sama makanan itu 'we (present company) don't like the food' vs. kami kurang suka sama makanan itu 'we (but not you) don't like the food' -- perhaps when complaining to the cook. ("I and you" -- just two people-- is of course plain old dual. Indonesian kita can mean that too.)