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Re: Natlang most similar to your conlang [WAS: Analyzing Ayeri's syntactic and voice alignment (long)]

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <melroch@...>
Date:Friday, April 4, 2008, 14:49
I like the idea of a morph per word ratio, but I can see a couple of
problems with it:

* it should still be called M rather than anything based on Greenberg, please!
* For a conlang which lacks longer texts it may be hard to calculate accurately.

2008/4/2, Dirk Elzinga <dirk.elzinga@...>:
> Thanks, Philip. > > A couple of things occurred to me as I reread my deathless prose from 2003. > In that version of the Language Code, I have: > > M morphology > a agglutinating (+/-) > i isolating (+/-) > > I think that these features can be replaced with a single feature, Green > (short for Greenberg). This feature is the ratio of morphs to words and is > expressed as a real number. For example, Miapimoquitch is 2.43. That is, on > average there are 2.43 morphs per word. I think this is a more accurate > reflection of the agglutinating/isolating dimension and isn't too hard to > figure out, given some amount of text. Joseph Greenberg, of typological > fame, proposed this (and other ratios) as a measure of morphological > typology. > > Also in this version of the Language Code, I claimed that English has 24 > consonants and 9 vowels. For the record (which is also in the archives) this > is not correct, and should be more like 14 or 15 for American English and > 19-22 for British English. Consult the archives for a nice little discussion > of this. > > Dirk > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 8:55 AM, Philip Newton <philip.newton@...> > wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:42 PM, Dirk Elzinga <dirk.elzinga@...> > > wrote: > > > Many years ago I proposed a "Language Code," which was intended to > > provide a > > > typological profile for a given constructed or natural language. It > > should > > > still be in the archives somewhere. > > > > Here's Take 4: http://archives.conlang.info/ge/suezhae/qhuevhunwhian.html > > > > Cheers, > > Philip > > -- > > Philip Newton <philip.newton@...> > > > > > > -- > Miapimoquitch: Tcf Pt*p+++12,4(c)v(v/c) W* Mf+++h+++t*a2c*g*n4 Sf++++argh > La----c++d++600 >
-- / BP

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Dirk Elzinga <dirk.elzinga@...>