Re: English |a|
From: | Bryan Parry <bajparry@...> |
Date: | Sunday, January 16, 2005, 17:15 |
One problem si that in RP- my accent- the vowels in
"bob" and "father" are not the same at all.
--- "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...> wrote:
> HM = Herman Miller
> TM = Tristan McLeay
>
> HM> I used to pronounce "warg" as /wOrg/, but I've
> also heard it as
> HM> /wArg/, and I don't know which is correct.
>
> 1. What the heck is a "warg"?
>
> 2. My automatic mental reading of it has the
> ah-sound there, so it
> rhymes with "arg"(ument) rather than
> "org"(anization).
>
> TM> American English seems to have some sort of
> issue with short O vs AW,
>
> Not sure what you mean by that.
>
> WARNING! YAEPT BEGINNING!
>
> I have four sounds in the range under discussion,
> best represented in
> English fauxnetics by "ah", "aw", "or", "oh". Note
> that to my ear,
> this sequences represents a linear progression in
> sound; "aw" is between
> "ah" and "or" etc.
>
> 1. "ah" This occurs in "father", "water", etc, but
> also in the words
> marked in my dictionary as possessing of a "short
> o" sound: Bob, cot,
> dog, fog, got, etc.
>
> 2. "aw" This occurs at the end of words like "caw"
> and "law", and also
> before "dark" L, as in "call", "fall", etc.
>
> 3. "or" This sound does include the rhotic, but the
> quality of the o
> there, even without the r-coloring, never occurs
> in my 'lect without
> the following 'r'. Example: "oratory".
>
> 4. "oh" This is the regular "long o" sound I have in
> "bone", "cope",
> "dome", "go", etc.
>
>
> That sets my context. Now what is the issue you
> find between "short o"
> and "aw"?
>
> -Marcos
>
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