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Re: English |a|

From:Bryan Parry <bajparry@...>
Date:Sunday, January 16, 2005, 17:15
One problem si that in RP- my accent- the vowels in
"bob" and "father" are not the same at all.



 --- "Mark J. Reed" <markjreed@...> wrote:
> HM = Herman Miller > TM = Tristan McLeay > > HM> I used to pronounce "warg" as /wOrg/, but I've > also heard it as > HM> /wArg/, and I don't know which is correct. > > 1. What the heck is a "warg"? > > 2. My automatic mental reading of it has the > ah-sound there, so it > rhymes with "arg"(ument) rather than > "org"(anization). > > TM> American English seems to have some sort of > issue with short O vs AW, > > Not sure what you mean by that. > > WARNING! YAEPT BEGINNING! > > I have four sounds in the range under discussion, > best represented in > English fauxnetics by "ah", "aw", "or", "oh". Note > that to my ear, > this sequences represents a linear progression in > sound; "aw" is between > "ah" and "or" etc. > > 1. "ah" This occurs in "father", "water", etc, but > also in the words > marked in my dictionary as possessing of a "short > o" sound: Bob, cot, > dog, fog, got, etc. > > 2. "aw" This occurs at the end of words like "caw" > and "law", and also > before "dark" L, as in "call", "fall", etc. > > 3. "or" This sound does include the rhotic, but the > quality of the o > there, even without the r-coloring, never occurs > in my 'lect without > the following 'r'. Example: "oratory". > > 4. "oh" This is the regular "long o" sound I have in > "bone", "cope", > "dome", "go", etc. > > > That sets my context. Now what is the issue you > find between "short o" > and "aw"? > > -Marcos >
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