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Re: Some weird verbs in Ayeri

From:Carsten Becker <carbeck@...>
Date:Tuesday, October 16, 2007, 14:18

Matahaniya ang Henrik Theiling <theiling@...>:

> You could have two types of adverbs, I suppose that's ok,
In fact, there would be three then :-) Adverbs of degree and measure are added as clitics to words. This is illustrated in 2b, where I wrote _kanka-kay_, which is "a bit of milk". The hyphen indicates that the compound is not too strong, so e.g. _-va_ (most) may also be used as a proper adjective (regular _nuva_ when the head is in agentive case), because adverbial endings usually don't like to be stacked. _-va_ (or _-va_, they're homorphemic (term?)) itself is used as the ending for the superlative of both adjectives and adverbs as well. That's maybe a bit englishy, but "most" and the superlative seem to line up very well IMO. Note that the adverb was IRL derived from the superlative ending some time.
> and I also suppose those that follow the verb cannot be > used as a full verb?
Only as the derivation of the adjective -- adverbs are technically just adjectives without agreement. If you derive a verb from an adjective the stem will mostly not change, maybe the last vowel is dropped, but that's all. So adjective-derived verbs may be seen as adjectives taking verbal morphemes.
> I wonder whether Tatari Faran has two types of adverbs, > when, as Eric said, one type is called 'adverb of manner'.
Teoh hasn't been much around for a while unfortunately, so I guess I'll ask him directly pointing to this thread. Yours Carsten -- "Besonvenyonangang na nudeng inunsegasyena." -- Segakáryo Litayarim Pinena, Nankyu 3, 2317 ya 06:38:03 pd Tuesday, October 16, 2007 at 03:41:59 pm