Re: Uusisuom, Unilang, auxlang discussions in CONLANG

Daniel Andreasson wrote:

>Yoon Ha wrote:
>
>> > Speaking of this. If I have 10 C and 3 V in Pimak and all
>> > the roots of the lang are CVCVC, then how many possible
>> > roots would there be? Excuse my total dumbness, but I seem
>> > to really suck at maths.
>
>> <wry g>  Hey, at least that's combinatorics I know how to do.
>> I *suck* at anything more complex than basic combinatorics/
>> probability.
>
>Oh, bummer. I was hoping you could explain derivative (or what
>the term would be in English). I'm desperately lost in my
>Economics class. :(
>
>> > Would I have to multiply 10x3x10x3x10 = 9.000 ?
>
>> Yes, that's correct,

I tried my rusty math at this, when Kash was sufficiently organized that I
could think about producing forms. 5 vowels.  15 initial C, ptckfsShmnñwrly;
19 medial, those plus mb,nd,nj,Ng; and l0 finals, ptkmnñrlsS.
V    5
CV    75
VC    50
CVC    750
CVCV  7125
CVCVC  71250
CVCVCV  678675
CVCVCVC 6786750  for a grand total of 7,544,680-- approximate because:

subtract a very few constraints:  no #yi, no #rVr.. or ...rVr... --
add a few clusters: initial/medial ptk(r), medial mb,nd(r)--
and remember that some but not all cases of ...(u,o)wV... and
...ay(i,e)...are merely spelling conventions where {w,y} are not phonemic--
Final /S/ is rare on a base; very frequent as the neut. pl. marker(not
counted)--
Lots of the trisyllables are derivs. of bisyllables--
And then there are CVCV.CVCV(C) compounds.  Well, I didn't even bother.  The
neighborhood of 7 million seemed like quite enough.  I think about 2000 have
been used so far.

Aside from /ñ/, the only other marked character (in WP) is s-acute for /S/,
my little bow to Sanskrit.   A Spanish-based orthography-- actually the
original plan-- would avoid that.  {x}for /S/, {j} for /h/ [x]; but then
{nj} [ndZ] would have been confusing.....